1. Jamie says:

    July 11, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    I have been following this case (CNN.com and abcnews.com). I don’t think Zimmerman should be convicted of 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, yes. And I think he should serve time not just probation. But I don’t think there’s enough evidence to convict him for 2nd degree. I don’t agree with some of your conclusions, comparison to slavery, but I do agree with most of what you put forth. Do you think there’s any difference since Zimmerman is Hispanic? Also, do you think African Americans are targeted more than other minorities (women, homosexuals, etc)?

    • Martha says:

      July 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm

      I think he should be convicted of 2nd degree murder. He targeted someone and they ended up dead. I do not think that black men are necessarily targeted more than women or homosexuals, but I do think they often get less justice because of the stereotypical fear that white America has for them. Historically, black men are feared and repressed in our country. Women and gays are targeted in a different way. Thank you for sharing!

  2. says:

    July 11, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    I just heard a (brief) piece on NPR yesterday about this case and some of the testimony. I have a feeling he is not going to be found guilty…at least not to the degree that people invested in the case hope. My hunch is that testimony that from witnesses suggesting that Zimmerman was actually on the bottom at point will convince the jury that there was an element of “self-defense.” My initial reaction listening to the NPR piece was, “Hmm – well does that mean we were all too quick to villainize Zimmerman?” But I don’t think so..because as you point out, even if he ultimately shot his gun because he was getting his butt beat, the incident all began with racial profiling and Zimmerman instigating a confrontation, which should never have happened. AND it doesn’t change the fact that the police were quick to dismiss the case as stand-your-ground without fully investigating, or the way that the media didn’t take notice of the case until public outcry, or that this happens time and again to young black men in our communities, or that many people were so quick to label Martin a “thug” and therefore dismiss his murder. And it doesn’t change that this tragedy has terrified moms like you and me.

    My fear is that if Zimmerman is NOT found guilty it will “validate” the thinking of people who don’t want to acknowledge that race was an issue and that the stereotypes that continue to be perpetuated about black men in our culture put them in danger.

    • Martha says:

      July 12, 2013 at 12:14 am

      I keep thinking about you Ellie,(and other moms) when I think about who might care about this case. Having two boys, it must be extra painful to watch this trial. I know I feel so badly for Trayvon’s mom, and of course his dad too.

      I agree with everything you said. I too, have had moments of wondering if we were too quick to judge Zimmerman, but then I keep coming back to this. He stalked Trayvon. He stalked him! Someone is walking on a sidewalk in your community and suddenly he’s dead and it’s fucking self defense? It’s bullshit!!

      And yes, exactly! If he is found not guilty, it will totally validate all the negative about Trayvon and people will forget that Zimmerman stalked a man for being black and now he’s dead. I really hope he’s found guilty. I really, really do. If only to send a message.

      I’ve had moments of feeling sorry for him, but then I just keep coming back to the end result which is the murder of a teenager at the beginning of his life whose only crime was the color of his skin.

  3. Martha says:

    July 14, 2013 at 12:04 pm

    From reader, Michel, who was having a hard time commenting:

    “Hardly anybody is whiter than me and I don’t have kids. I was one of those scapegoat kids who got picked on by 1/2 my school, while the other half just watched. (I went to my high school reunion because it ticked me off to be scared to go! 🙂 )

    This upbringing has left me with (a quiet, but universal fear of all people and) a sense that humans are inherently capable of being really cruel and random, even in day to day circumstances. All of them. I’m talking about emotionally lashing out, not accidentally stepping on my toe.

    I totally “get” that if it can happen to Trayvon, it can happen to anybody. Someone, somewhere can assume my presence is a threat to them/their way of life because something about me reminds them of something that scares them.

    I’d like to hear the details of the “stand your ground” law. Is it clearly written, with defined situational restrictions, or just a simple statement that you can kill a person at any moment you feel threatened? Hard to believe it would be left that open to interpretation, but bad laws do get passed.”


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